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    #11
    Ouch sobrang sapul ako dito sa poor english skills.
    Galing pa naman ako sa isa sa mga top universities dito sa Pilipinas.
    Madali ako makaintindi ng English pero hirap talaga ako mag-express thru writing and speaking.

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    #12

    We have to think out of the way we Filipinos normally think and speak out....

    Straight answers, - yes, almost perfect. No argument here. Being polite - no question about it.

    But when explaining and justifying recommendations, positions and reasons,- we are still a long way behind.

    Can't just reason out that it is the way we used to do it,- or it makes sense, or you like it and just fold up > you have to argue and address them 360deg.

    There are occasions when you have to be outrageously confrontational to drive a point...

    Just be ready with the counterpunch,- as it will be coming...

    I remember co-employees who said things that made me cringe as a Filipino,- well,- the Americans loved them!


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    #13
    What I find strange is how SOME Filipinos are either afraid or shy to make conversational English even if they had no issues in spoken and written business English. I noticed this at work when my team would go out with our foreign bosses and they would tell me "ikaw na kumausap"

    I am surprised with this study BTW. I always thought Filipinos are good in English. Most stores or bazaar nga English mga nagtitinda e.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    What I find strange is how SOME Filipinos are either afraid or shy to make conversational English even if they had no issues in spoken and written business English. I noticed this at work when my team would go out with our foreign bosses and they would tell me "ikaw na kumausap"

    I am surprised with this study BTW. I always thought Filipinos are good in English. Most stores or bazaar nga English mga nagtitinda e.
    Iyan ang sinasabi ko sa mga tao namin-

    Kahit na English Kalabaw,- sagutin mo...

    Kung sinigawan ka,- pagbigyan mo ng 2, kung 3 na,- sigawan mo rin...

    T*ngn*ng mga puti iyan...

    Pero,- huwag kang tatahimik - iyan ang malaking kasalanan.....


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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Baka naman we're Just being too hard on our own people.

    Kahit naman sa America mali-mali Grammar nila eh. First language pa nila yan.


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    Example yung your and you're. That's a common mistake even with Americans.

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    #16
    The issue is kapag nageenglish ka, sasabihan ka pa na conyo. Maarte. Kaya tuloy hindi naprapractice ng mga bata yung english skills nila. Kahit trained ka pa mag english, kung di naman araw araw ginagamit, mahihirapan ka pa din.

    Use it or lose it.

    Pero among southest asian nations, our accent are neutral. In short madali intindihin kahit barok.

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Baka naman we're Just being too hard on our own people.

    Kahit naman sa America mali-mali Grammar nila eh. First language pa nila yan.


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    Mas kailangan ng pinoy na marunong magenglish dahil service-oriented maraming trabaho especially for OFWs and BPOs.

    Our previous competitive advantage is slowly slipping away. Kalaban mo na nga AI with job automation, talo ka pa ng ibang bansa when it comes to business outsourcing. This can hamper the growth of our service sector if not addressed correctly.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

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    #18
    I've been based outside the country for more than 10 years.

    And yes, Pinoys are not comfortable speaking in English... Yes we have call centers, english teachers and nurses, but iilan lang sila sa population natin.

    Sad part is that the "Pinoy Dream" is not to be a lawyer and doctor (etc)... Majority of the people is either asking the government for help, trying to be a singer, or wants to be part of PBB. That big break to be a star/model/singer, travel the world and post it in instagram!

    Politicians make long speaches in tagalog, radio stations are in tagalog, TV news and series are all in tagalog.

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Iyan ang sinasabi ko sa mga tao namin-

    Kahit na English Kalabaw,- sagutin mo...

    Kung sinigawan ka,- pagbigyan mo ng 2, kung 3 na,- sigawan mo rin...

    T*ngn*ng mga puti iyan...

    Pero,- huwag kang tatahimik - iyan ang malaking kasalanan.....

    I don't see much issues at work when it comes to written and spoken business English. Yung conversational ang ayaw ng iba, importante din yung personal rapport kasi.

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Kids won't learn that much for the stuff they watch on TV. Instant gratification will not develop deep learning. Puro kababawan lang.

    It is important that we stress the value of reading. Through reading, kids will develop comprehension and understanding.

    but kids who grew up watching disney channel and nickelodeon galing mag english

    american accent pa

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