Unioil EURO 5 Gasoline/Diesel

[17Sphynx17]

yes, ako yung may issue sa upuan, our travel to the office is about 64km one way or 128km round trip 2x a week, using the whole stretch of skyway to nlex, yung upuan na ayos ko na, may nabili ako sa mr. diy na seat pad, mukang alam ko na ang problema, the name of the game ngayon pandemic is cost cutting so thats the hint.

di ko sinabi ma usok yung 1gd namin, parang pusit siya kase pag naka idle eh yung sahig may mga black sooth mula sa tabutso, nabibirit naman siya sa expressway lalo na sa nlex na 100kph ang max speed, sa skyway kase 80 / 60 kph lang, yun lang may engine idling ako na mga 2 to 3 hrs while waiting sa client meetings

btw, 1st time namin mag ka bnew na sasakyan at diesel, mostly ang mga company provided vehicle namin dati ay 2nd hand lang at gasoline

2 to 3 hours engine idling? Tama ba yun nakita ko?

Kung ganun katagal ka nagidle lang ng makina para may aircon, bakit di ka na lang mag coffee shop alfresco? Mas matipid pa yun kaysa sa inuubus mo na diesel at pagpatakbo ng makina?

Tsaka, correct me if im wrong, since hindi umiinit at idling ka nga lang parati ng sobra tagal, yung egr ng diesel diba kelangan above idle (mataas rpm) para masunug yung soot at hindi mapunta sa exhaust system din tlga?

I think yun yung issue mo sa 'pusit' but baka mali ako. Intay na lang comment ng iba.

[jresperanza]

2 to 3 hours engine idling? Tama ba yun nakita ko?

Kung ganun katagal ka nagidle lang ng makina para may aircon, bakit di ka na lang mag coffee shop alfresco? Mas matipid pa yun kaysa sa inuubus mo na diesel at pagpatakbo ng makina?

Tsaka, correct me if im wrong, since hindi umiinit at idling ka nga lang parati ng sobra tagal, yung egr ng diesel diba kelangan above idle (mataas rpm) para masunug yung soot at hindi mapunta sa exhaust system din tlga?

I think yun yung issue mo sa 'pusit' but baka mali ako. Intay na lang comment ng iba.

we reach our office via expressway from SLEX to NLEX, sa tingin ko naman sa 100kph sa NLEX na tangal na lahat ng dapat ma tangal na abo sa tambutso, field sales kame, need talaga mag idle pa minsan minsan, ngayon lang naman nag luwag sa malls, pag may malapit na mall dun muna ako waiting, minsan swerte kase malamig yung kainan na pag hihintayan ko, minsan malas at mainit kase nag titipid ang establishment, pero nung panahon na wala dine in, no choice kundi mag idle habang nag hihintay at kumain sa loob ng sasakyan...

[dr. d]

we reach our office via expressway from SLEX to NLEX, sa tingin ko naman sa 100kph sa NLEX na tangal na lahat ng dapat ma tangal na abo sa tambutso,

if that were true, then why is your tambutso's insides, as seen at the visible end, black?

ang natatanggal lang, ay the loosened soots.
but there is always soot bujild-up when the engine is running.
it's the nature of the beast.

[jresperanza]

if that were true, then why is your tambutso's insides, as seen at the visible end, black?

ang natatanggal lang, ay the loosened soots.
but there is always soot bujild-up when the engine is running.
it's the nature of the beast.

ahh, ganun pala yun, akala ko yun ang sinusulusyonan ng pag gamit ng EURO 5 diesel, kaya ko lang naman innobserbahan ang tambutso eh ayaw ko mag carbon buildup ang turbo, pero kung 20,000 to 200,000 rpm umiikot ang turbo eh mag kaka carbon buildup ba siya?

1st time namin mag ka diesel na sasakyan at bnew pa...

[dr. d]

ahh, ganun pala yun, akala ko yun ang sinusulusyonan ng pag gamit ng EURO 5 diesel, kaya ko lang naman innobserbahan ang tambutso eh ayaw ko mag carbon buildup ang turbo, pero kung 20,000 to 200,000 rpm umiikot ang turbo eh mag kaka carbon buildup ba siya?

1st time namin mag ka diesel na sasakyan at bnew pa...

it is in the nature of the diesel engine, to produce carbon in its tailpipe.
nothing we can do about it.
as long as it does not spew black smoke, we're good.

[Dr.Kamiya]

I think there was a batch of PPV/SUVs here that got DPFs, around the time Euro 4 was being introduced. I got to drive a CASA unit Montero Sport that had it. Gulat kami after driving through SCTEX it was revving by itself and spewing white smoke. We called our contact at Mitsu and they said it was normal daw -- since the car reached the necessary temp and particulate accumulation for DPF burn-off the ECU decided to do it.

Those cars wala masyado usok sa tailpipe, drawback is they need an Italian Tune-Up every once in a while to burn off accumulated carbon in the DPF. Too long without a good highway run and the DPF goes bad from too much contamination.

After a while car manufacturers realized that our emissions testing is barely up to the standards of Euro 2, so they decided to remove the DPFs para one less source of headache. Drawback is the return of soot, smoke and squid ink when idling.

[17Sphynx17]

we reach our office via expressway from SLEX to NLEX, sa tingin ko naman sa 100kph sa NLEX na tangal na lahat ng dapat ma tangal na abo sa tambutso, field sales kame, need talaga mag idle pa minsan minsan, ngayon lang naman nag luwag sa malls, pag may malapit na mall dun muna ako waiting, minsan swerte kase malamig yung kainan na pag hihintayan ko, minsan malas at mainit kase nag titipid ang establishment, pero nung panahon na wala dine in, no choice kundi mag idle habang nag hihintay at kumain sa loob ng sasakyan...

Nung as highway ka, you are burning any soot build up.

Pero during idling for 2 to 3 hours, wala kang in between that period na humahataw makina.

Walang idling consumption din mabibigay to give a 'cost of fuel per hour', but if 2 to 3 hours ka maghihintay na nakaaircon, mas mahal pa yung sa coffee shop talaga. Kahit magdetour sa mcdo tapos park sa may silong and balik ka sa area mo, baka mas matipid pa cost wise.

Again, not saying hindi mo dapat ginagawa yun kasi kahit kami nung nagsusundu ng mga bata, walang choice kung hindi magidle ng matagal kasi hindi sabay sabay labasan nila.

Just that kung maiwasan, iwas kasi hindi tlaga recommended yung long idling.

Pag ganyan situation, kahit fs ka, i dont think the 10k kms will apply sa oil change, baka need gawin every 5k, kasi yung idling na takbo kinain yung mileage allocation

But thats me.

[jresperanza]

Nung as highway ka, you are burning any soot build up.

Pero during idling for 2 to 3 hours, wala kang in between that period na humahataw makina.

Walang idling consumption din mabibigay to give a 'cost of fuel per hour', but if 2 to 3 hours ka maghihintay na nakaaircon, mas mahal pa yung sa coffee shop talaga. Kahit magdetour sa mcdo tapos park sa may silong and balik ka sa area mo, baka mas matipid pa cost wise.

Again, not saying hindi mo dapat ginagawa yun kasi kahit kami nung nagsusundu ng mga bata, walang choice kung hindi magidle ng matagal kasi hindi sabay sabay labasan nila.

Just that kung maiwasan, iwas kasi hindi tlaga recommended yung long idling.

Pag ganyan situation, kahit fs ka, i dont think the 10k kms will apply sa oil change, baka need gawin every 5k, kasi yung idling na takbo kinain yung mileage allocation

But thats me.

hindi option mag tatambay sa labas ngayon dahil sa covid, minsan mas ok pa kumain sa loob ng sasakyan kase ang init din sa iba mcdo

ok lang regular oil, kaya namin maka 5000 km in 3 months or less...

[yapoy86]

hindi option mag tatambay sa labas ngayon dahil sa covid, minsan mas ok pa kumain sa loob ng sasakyan kase ang init din sa iba mcdo

ok lang regular oil, kaya namin maka 5000 km in 3 months or less...

sorry sa unioil thread.. pero try mo mag shift sa petron turbo diesel to compare if you will have the same kind of soot..

sa fortuner kasi, yan gamit ko.. wala soot.. sa dinosaur adventure ko, much lesser ang soot compared sa diesel max..