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    hi tsikoters

    greetings...


    i am just wondering, in a few days, we will enter 2017 already, yet there are still fuel stations accepting cash and susceptible to holdups and robberies...

    the question is, why are Philippine fuel stations not promoting pure electronic payment to prevent such crimes stated above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    hi tsikoters

    greetings...


    i am just wondering, in a few days, we will enter 2017 already, yet there are still fuel stations accepting cash and susceptible to holdups and robberies...

    the question is, why are Philippine fuel stations not promoting pure electronic payment to prevent such crimes stated above?
    Meron naman ah?

    To answer, the whole market. Not all can comply with that.

    PUVs, trikes etc.


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    Probably harder to execute since not everyone has credit cards. It seems easier to enforce electronic toll fee collection by forcing everyone to get a RFID during vehicle registration, but rare highway travellers wouldn't agree.

    Can't remember the requirements, but would the average PUV driver be easoly granted credit cards by banks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calistro View Post
    Probably harder to execute since not everyone has credit cards. It seems easier to enforce electronic toll fee collection by forcing everyone to get a RFID during vehicle registration, but rare highway travellers wouldn't agree.

    Can't remember the requirements, but would the average PUV driver be easoly granted credit cards by banks?

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    Yun na nga.

    PUJs get their fuel expenses sa daily income din nila. Kumbaga wala sila pang advance para ipang paikot.


    credit card
    Issues: concrete proof of income
    Bad credit ratings

    debit card
    Too much for the operator/driver to maintain one since may remaining balance ito.

    fleet card
    Corporate ito, will not work with your sole operator-driver setting


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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Yun na nga.

    PUJs get their fuel expenses sa daily income din nila. Kumbaga wala sila pang advance para ipang paikot.


    credit card
    Issues: concrete proof of income
    Bad credit ratings

    debit card
    Too much for the operator/driver to maintain one since may remaining balance ito.

    fleet card
    Corporate ito, will not work with your sole operator-driver setting


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    kawawa naman ang PUV, sa tagal tagal nila experience sa pag byahe di pa nila ma project kung magkano per day/week/month ang gastos sa crudo?

    tska di pwede excuse ang wala pang advance, pano pag naka aksidente or may nasira part na biglaan, kamot ulo na lang?

    simple ATM will do, magkano lang maintaining balance ng ATM? 500 lang yata, not necessary credit card...

    mas ok nga ang cashless electronic, protected ang pera mo sa PIN and skimming (EMV ATM) at protected din sa pag nanakaw ang gas station kase napaka liit lng ng pera naka imbak

    siguro ang drawback ng atm/debit card eh protected nga ang pera mo, pero pag nawala mo ang card (pati yata pag na sira) eh bayad ka replacement fee for a new card...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    hi tsikoters

    greetings...


    i am just wondering, in a few days, we will enter 2017 already, yet there are still fuel stations accepting cash and susceptible to holdups and robberies...

    the question is, why are Philippine fuel stations not promoting pure electronic payment to prevent such crimes stated above?
    if one knows how, it is easier to steal huge amounts of money via electronics.
    there are pros and cons, po.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if one knows how, it is easier to steal huge amounts of money via electronics.
    there are pros and cons, po.
    its the modern era na, transactions are being recorded already and fraud can be detected...

    at least on the electronic side there is a trace, sa cash wala...

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    You and me, madali lang replenish yung credits ng fuel card. Most likely, we can opt to refill it online using credit card or some other modes of online payment. But for a typical PUV driver, they'll look at it as an additional hassle. Kelangan pa nila mag hulog sa bangko, bayad center, or sa mismong gas station to refill their fuel card. In the end, the convenience of using the card is outweighted by the extra work to refill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    You and me, madali lang replenish yung credits ng fuel card. Most likely, we can opt to refill it online using credit card or some other modes of online payment. But for a typical PUV driver, they'll look at it as an additional hassle. Kelangan pa nila mag hulog sa bangko, bayad center, or sa mismong gas station to refill their fuel card. In the end, the convenience of using the card is outweighted by the extra work to refill them.
    its not a fuel card per se, it can be a ATM/debit card, diba mas ok kung meron ka saving sa banko that you know that the transactions are recorded and can be contested if in doubt... not unlike sa physical cash, pitikin sayo yan, wala ka na magagawa...

    at the end of the day, lahat or partial ng kinita eh ilagay sa banko, thats what business do...

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    ^ Depends. Mostly kita ng driver nauubos sa daily expenses nila so kung meron silang ATM, more of savings account not for emergencies.

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