Re: variable valve engine comparo
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Originally Posted by
redorange
Just to put the 4g92 MIVEC in perspective here is a list of some of the highest horsepower per liter N/A engines and cars.
Ferrari F50 GT = 153 per liter
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Ferrari 599GTB = 102
Just imagine if it had the same displacement as some of those Ferrari engines.
Old thread but this info is nice. Just need edit and add these popular platform among enthusiasts here in the west, even in pinas as I heard.
Car Engine Factory Output
Ferrari F50 GT = 153 per liter
Nissan SR16 N1 = 123.125
Honda F20C = 120
Honda B16B = 116
Ferrari 430 = 112
Ferrari 360 & Honda K20A = 111
Ferrari F50 & Honda B18C = 109.4
Mitsu 4g92MIVEC & Nissan SR16 = 109.375
Ferrari 355 = 108.57
Ferrari Enzo = 108.33
Toyota 4A-GE = 103
Ferrari 599GTB & Nissan SR20VE= 102
Anymore 100+ hp per liter production engines out there? Pls. feel free to add. :)
Re: variable valve engine comparo
Edit some info on The Proud & Powerful Factory Production N.As.
Car Engine Factory Output hp
Ferrari F50 GT = 153 hp per liter
Nissan SR16 N1 = 123.125 (Most powerful production 1.6L engine)
Honda F20C = 120 (Most powerful production 2L engine)
Honda B16B Type R = 113
Ferrari 430 = 112
Ferrari 360 & Honda K20A = 111
Nissan SR16, Honda B18C & Ferrari F50 = 109.4
Ferrari 355 = 108.57
Ferrari Enzo = 108.33
Mitsubishi 4G92 Mivec = 107
Toyota 4A-GE = 103
Nissan SR20VE & Ferrari 599GTB = 102
Honda B16A Sir = 100
Re: variable valve engine comparo
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Originally Posted by
cd!
Edit some info on The Proud & Powerful Factory Production N.As.
Car Engine Factory Output hp
Ferrari F50 GT = 153 hp per liter
Nissan SR16 N1 = 123.125 (Most powerful production 1.6L engine)
Honda F20C = 120 (Most powerful production 2L engine)
Honda B16B Type R = 113
Ferrari 430 = 112
Ferrari 360 & Honda K20A = 111
Nissan SR16, Honda B18C & Ferrari F50 = 109.4
Ferrari 355 = 108.57
Ferrari Enzo = 108.33
Mitsubishi 4G92 Mivec = 107
Toyota 4A-GE = 103
Nissan SR20VE & Ferrari 599GTB = 102
Honda B16A Sir = 100
King of 1.6 -SR16VE N1! :happy:
Re: variable valve engine comparo
The thing with high-horse, low-displacement engines like the B16 is that they often don't have the torque that's necessary for everyday driving. Not everyone drives above 5000 rpm to work.
Re: variable valve engine comparo
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Originally Posted by
Ponkan
King of 1.6 -SR16VE N1! :happy:
Yep! And the F20C for the 2L n.a.
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Originally Posted by
jut703
The thing with high-horse, low-displacement engines like the B16 is that they often don't have the torque that's necessary for everyday driving. Not everyone drives above 5000 rpm to work.
Your right that's why some enthusiast do a B20 frankenstein on the B16 or choose the SR20VE over the SR16, especially since the SR20 (NeoVVL or not) is known for their "truck" torque. But then again, that's why some tuners opt to use variable valve controllers which adjusts Vtec or NeoVVL RPM engagement.
Lastly IMO, these cars can "still" be a good daily driver minus low end torque. But yeah they are more marketed towards performance enthusiasts who wouldn't/couldn't buy a an expensive sportscar but likes performance, and still have an everyday reliable/practical everyday ecobox. :)
Re: variable valve engine comparo
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Originally Posted by
cd!
Yep! And the F20C for the 2L n.a.
Your right that's why some enthusiast do a B20 frankenstein on the B16 or choose the SR20VE over the SR16, especially since the SR20 (NeoVVL or not) is known for their "truck" torque. But then again, that's why some tuners opt to use variable valve controllers which adjusts Vtec or NeoVVL RPM engagement.
Lastly IMO, these cars can "still" be a good daily driver minus low end torque. But yeah they are more marketed towards performance enthusiasts who wouldn't/couldn't buy a an expensive sportscar but likes performance, and still have an everyday reliable/practical everyday ecobox. :)
sayang lang sir kung nasa states lang tayo dami parts for the SR engine available plus daming pede mag tune ng engine, kaso katotohanan nasa kabilang side tayo ng mundo :grin: low budget engine transplant ang SR and gives more power than B16
Re: variable valve engine comparo
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Originally Posted by
Ponkan
sayang lang sir kung nasa states lang tayo dami parts for the SR engine available plus daming pede mag tune ng engine, kaso katotohanan nasa kabilang side tayo ng mundo :grin: low budget engine transplant ang SR and gives more power than B16
Agee. hehe. Sa west even Europeans have harnessed the power of Front Wheel Drive SRs, while is Japan Rear Wheel Drive SRs naman ang patok. :) But actually, here in Pinas there are already a lot of tuners that know how to tune SRs, FWD or RWD. Kay Autoplus, Titan, Streetspecs pa lang eh. Only minor problem is some performance parts w/c is not readily available, but they can be ordered naman just like other B16/18 parts or even the 4AGE. Well mas mahirap sa mitsu's mivec engines w/c aftermarket parts are few even in the west. :wonder: Yeah, practical swap ang SR20DE since most of them are early 90s pa! Unlike the younger B series. :D But the NeoVVLs SR20VE and SR16VE ones are more expensive especially the SR16. :)
