i still don't like the concept of the kicks. combined complexity of both electric and gasoline in one car too many parts and systems that could go wrong. that a/c fiasco is just the beginning...

territory. so many things to not like: the badge, china, turbo, GDI, etc.

if i needed to buy a vehicle today to carry 4 or 5 people i'd probably get a Corolla. i own a crossover but i now think they're stupid.

PS get a jimny instead