Joylong Hivan van vs toyota grandia.

[GTi]

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Thank you GTI, at least I have an idea and will definitely consider it an option if my plan to regear doesn't work due to incompatibility issues.

Mount Pulag is definitely steeper, but the worst part is many portions of the road although all cemented are one lane only, so you have to stop to give way when there is an incoming vehicle, which is when the problem of a full pack vehicle becomes a major issue. Maybe it is also because my clutch assembly was already marginal when we went up to Mount Pulag. Or it is also highly possible that the first gear ratio of a Grandia is geared for low speed and the Joylong or Foton first gears are not.

In Boracay (Kalibo Caticlan Route) and in Bohol , A big proportion of the tourist vans are Joylong rather than a Toyota Grandia. Mainly I think because of more passenger capacity. It is there where I actually first saw a Joylong. But again, there are no steep roads going to Boracay. Maybe thats the reason why Grandias still reign supreme among tourist vans in Luzon, because many tourist spots here are in the boondocks and I have personal experience with my Joylong not able to climb satisfactorily steep inclines.

As I said in my previous post, I don't have a problem with my Joylong even when full pack with 18 passengers, a driver and their cargoes when driving in flat roads. It is in the boondocks where I did encounter a problem.

I wonder how steep Pulag is if such kind of van is unable to get there. Makes me want to go! 😆

I've seen some fully loaded Chinese UV Express vans going up Kennon Road before. These were the older Hiace clones, that had the Isuzu engines and I was surprised at how fast they were going! At the time I was driving a Revo diesel with only around half the payload they were carrying, and I could barely keep up with them.

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[monmendoza]

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I wonder how steep Pulag is if such kind of van is unable to get there. Makes me want to go! ��

I've seen some fully loaded Chinese UV Express vans going up Kennon Road before. These were the older Hiace clones, that had the Isuzu engines and I was surprised at how fast they were going! At the time I was driving a Revo diesel with only around half the payload they were carrying, and I could barely keep up with them.

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Subukan mo GTi. Ang lamig doon. Its impossible to stay out at night even when you have 3 sets of clothes. It does not matter if it is december or summer. And during January to February you will experience frost in the early morning. Icicles in the vegetables are everywhere.

You do not need to climb Mount Pulag to enjoy the very cold weather of Mount Pulag National Park. You can just sleep in the ranger station. There are many homestays there and almost all charges only P250 per night. If you just want to do muni-muni and enjoy the weather, you can stay in Baban's Homestay which is about 3kms before the ranger station. The homestay is surrounded by vegetable farms all around . You can even buy from them Carrots at P10/kg and lettuce at P15/kg. They also serve breakfast, lunch and dinner for P80 per person per meal.

[GTi]

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Subukan mo GTi. Ang lamig doon. Its impossible to stay out at night even when you have 3 sets of clothes. It does not matter if it is december or summer. And during January to February you will experience frost in the early morning. Icicles in the vegetables are everywhere.

You do not need to climb Mount Pulag to enjoy the very cold weather of Mount Pulag National Park. You can just sleep in the ranger station. There are many homestays there and almost all charges only P250 per night. If you just want to do muni-muni and enjoy the weather, you can stay in Baban's Homestay which is about 3kms before the ranger station. The homestay is surrounded by vegetable farms all around . You can even buy from them Carrots at P10/kg and lettuce at P15/kg. They also serve breakfast, lunch and dinner for P80 per person per meal.

Ang mura! Hiking lang ba ang attraction sa Pulag? Is the place conducive to senior citizens?

BTT: How's your regearing plan doing?

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[monmendoza]

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Ang mura! Hiking lang ba ang attraction sa Pulag? Is the place conducive to senior citizens?

BTT: How's your regearing plan doing?

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Typical of many tourist spots in the Cordillera region, it is not senior citizen friendly.
Many people who to to Pulag go there to conquer the summit which is 2,900+ MASL. Depending
on who you talked to it is either the second highest mountain peak next to Mount APO in Davao
or the third highest mountain peak.

Personally I have been to Mount Pulag National Park 5 times, but i have never conquered the peak.
the 8km walk to the peak is uber tiring, and I can't seem to convince myself to go on. Its not in my
bucket list anyway.

But I do enjoy the cold weather in the vicinity of the ranger station. The ranger station is at 2,400+ MASL.
That means it is 1000 meters higher than baguio.

I have scheduled my regear on Friday. I hope it is compatible.

[monmendoza]

Update: We decided to open the 3rd member of the joylong and confirmed that the turns ratio is indeed 4.5556( 41:9). We also confirmed that the Joylong 3rd member is the same as a Toyota Hilux. We replaced the original R&P (4.5556) ratio with a lower speed gear ratio 5.29 ( 37:7) . The increase in torque is indeed noticeable. I havent tried driving it fast in NLEX or SCETEX to check what is the new top speed before it hits the redline. but the 16% torque increase at the expense of top speed will make it easier for my joylong to climb mount pulag.

please note: that professional help is needed to set the R&P gears, as backlash and torque has to be factory specs. In our case a 4x4 shop who regularly replace R&P gears did the job for us.