Altis 1.6 or Vios 1.3 ??? (Currently have Corolla GLi 4afe 1.6)

**Dezaremos** · February 20th, 2016 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Pareho lang. We had an old 1.6 GLi Corolla (AE101). Got 8.5 km/L city driving (this was back in the mid 2000s when traffic wasn't as bad).

Now, I have an Altis 1.6G that gets 8 km/L in moderate-heavy metro traffic.

I also had a 2014 Vios 1.3E AT (3rd gen). 8 km/L lang din sa city driving. The 1.3 engine paired with the heavy body and automatic transmission means that FC isn't very good.

Ang matipid na Vios is yung gen 1 and gen 2 na manual. But I don't see the point of trading your Corolla GLi for that - mas ok pa lumang Corolla kaysa lumang Vios.

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so kung pareho lng sa GLi ko then erase na ang altis .. ang gusto ay yung gen 1 at yung batman na vios, ayaw ko nang bagong design ng vios na malaki ang kaha, hindi daw as fuel efficient sabi ng mga medreps na kabarkada ko ..

"But I don't see the point of trading your Corolla GLi for that - mas ok pa lumang Corolla kaysa lumang Vios." - Bakit po mas ok ang lumang corolla kaysa lumang vios ?? yung 1st gen na vios ng boss ko na nabili nya ng 2nd hand sa manager ng philamlife, ok na ok nman kahit 10yrs na at saka napaka tipid pa sa gas ...

**jut703** · February 21st, 2016 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Dezaremos

so kung pareho lng sa GLi ko then erase na ang altis .. ang gusto ay yung gen 1 at yung batman na vios, ayaw ko nang bagong design ng vios na malaki ang kaha, hindi daw as fuel efficient sabi ng mga medreps na kabarkada ko ..

"But I don't see the point of trading your Corolla GLi for that - mas ok pa lumang Corolla kaysa lumang Vios." - Bakit po mas ok ang lumang corolla kaysa lumang vios ?? yung 1st gen na vios ng boss ko na nabili nya ng 2nd hand sa manager ng philamlife, ok na ok nman kahit 10yrs na at saka napaka tipid pa sa gas ...

The AE101 Corolla is more spacious than the gen 1 Vios. Also much more powerful. AE101 rides better too than the gen 1 Vios. Gen 2 improved in terms of space and refinement, but also much more expensive.

You can sell your Corolla for about 130k. A used gen 1 Vios 1.3 will be about 250k. Let's assume that the Corolla does 8 km/L and the Vios does 10 km/L, price of gas is 35/L, and you travel 15,000 km a year.

Annual fuel cost of the Corolla: 15,000 / 8 * 35 = P65,625

Annual fuel cost of the Vios: 15,000 / 10 * 35 = P52,500

That's a difference of roughly 13k per year. It will take you OVER 9 YEARS to even make up for the cost of trading your Corolla for a Vios. Only after that will you be realizing savings of about 1k a month in fuel.

Other forumers have already posted previously - the cost of switching to a more efficient car far outweighs the fuel savings you get.

We can't stop you if you wanna push through with the switch, but you've been sufficiently warned. Good luck with whatever you decide.

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**Dezaremos** · February 21st, 2016 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

The AE101 Corolla is more spacious than the gen 1 Vios. Also much more powerful. AE101 rides better too than the gen 1 Vios. Gen 2 improved in terms of space and refinement, but also much more expensive.

You can sell your Corolla for about 130k. A used gen 1 Vios 1.3 will be about 250k. Let's assume that the Corolla does 8 km/L and the Vios does 10 km/L, price of gas is 35/L, and you travel 15,000 km a year.

Annual fuel cost of the Corolla: 15,000 / 8 * 35 = P65,625

Annual fuel cost of the Vios: 15,000 / 10 * 35 = P52,500

That's a difference of roughly 13k per year. It will take you OVER 9 YEARS to even make up for the cost of trading your Corolla for a Vios. Only after that will you be realizing savings of about 1k a month in fuel.

Other forumers have already posted previously - the cost of switching to a more efficient car far outweighs the fuel savings you get.

We can't stop you if you wanna push through with the switch, but you've been sufficiently warned. Good luck with whatever you decide.

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Thanks for the inputs sir .. I really appreciate it ..

I really want to upgrade to a vios because it a newer model, I also thought a Vios can give me atleast 12kl/per li .. My daily route is office to house & vice versa with light to moderate traffic .. But I also do errands from my wife's business on weekends in moderate to heavy traffic ..

Based on your computations, will it be a good move to just replaced all the underchassis components of my AE101 that needed replacements rather than replace it with a vios ???

I just wanted a Vios to have a newer car than my GLi but I'm not planning to hold on to it forever .. Maybe 3 to 4 years only ...

**dct** · February 21st, 2016 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Dezaremos

Thanks for the inputs sir .. I really appreciate it ..

I really want to upgrade to a vios because it a newer model, I also thought a Vios can give me atleast 12kl/per li .. My daily route is office to house & vice versa with light to moderate traffic .. But I also do errands from my wife's business on weekends in moderate to heavy traffic ..

Based on your computations, will it be a good move to just replaced all the underchassis components of my AE101 that needed replacements rather than replace it with a vios ???

I just wanted a Vios to have a newer car than my GLi but I'm not planning to hold on to it forever .. Maybe 3 to 4 years only ...

Sisiw lang ang another 3 to 4 yrs. Ilang tulog lang yan di mo mamamalayan na 2019 na pala. Haha. Seriously, maiksi lang yan para bumili ka ng new car for the sake of better fuel consumption. Skip your plan for the vios and buy a better car in 2020. Nasave mo pa yung pera na papangbili mo sana ng vios for a better/newer car

**Dezaremos** · February 21st, 2016 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by dct

Sisiw lang ang another 3 to 4 yrs. Ilang tulog lang yan di mo mamamalayan na 2019 na pala. Haha. Seriously, maiksi lang yan para bumili ka ng new car for the sake of better fuel consumption. Skip your plan for the vios and buy a better car in 2020. Nasave mo pa yung pera na papangbili mo sana ng vios for a better/newer car

I wanted to sell the ae101 while wala pang electrical problems and pwede pang ma benta ng 130k-135k .. Tapos kukuha ako ng 1st gen na vios na 200k-230k and will be using it for another 5yrs .. Baka kasi magka problema na ang ae101 ko kung hihintayin ko pa ang 5yrs bago mag upgrade ..

**jut703** · February 21st, 2016 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dezaremos

I wanted to sell the ae101 while wala pang electrical problems and pwede pang ma benta ng 130k-135k .. Tapos kukuha ako ng 1st gen na vios na 200k-230k and will be using it for another 5yrs .. Baka kasi magka problema na ang ae101 ko kung hihintayin ko pa ang 5yrs bago mag upgrade ..

If you have an AE101 thats working well, why risk it with a Vios na hindi mo alam ang history, hindi mo alam kung anong hidden sira, hindi mo alam kung ok ang takbo. A newer car is not automatically less of a headache.

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**dct** · February 21st, 2016 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

If you have an AE101 thats working well, why risk it with a Vios na hindi mo alam ang history, hindi mo alam kung anong hidden sira, hindi mo alam kung ok ang takbo. A newer car is not automatically less of a headache.

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Agree with jut

**Dezaremos** · February 22nd, 2016 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

If you have an AE101 thats working well, why risk it with a Vios na hindi mo alam ang history, hindi mo alam kung anong hidden sira, hindi mo alam kung ok ang takbo. A newer car is not automatically less of a headache.

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It's because I also got the ae101 2nd hand and its really a good buy & didn't give me any major problems except for minor underchassis bushings, tie rods, rack end, ball joint & the leaking valve cover gasket which was fixed by replacing a new ones ..

Except to holding on to it while its aging, I'm not gonna wait until it gives me electrical problems due to its age so I'm planning to sell it for a good price and wait till I can find a Vios in pristine condition ..
Because when the time comes that my ae101 gives me problems due to its age then I will be force to sell it at a lower price & I'm gonna have to add more cash to get a vios .. I still get a vios but the only difference is that I will be adding more cash to get it ..

That's why I posted this in this forum to have some expert advices from you guys whether I am making the right decision or not ..

**bloowolf** · February 21st, 2016 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dezaremos

I wanted to sell the ae101 while wala pang electrical problems and pwede pang ma benta ng 130k-135k .. Tapos kukuha ako ng 1st gen na vios na 200k-230k and will be using it for another 5yrs .. Baka kasi magka problema na ang ae101 ko kung hihintayin ko pa ang 5yrs bago mag upgrade ..

If you are deadset on getting a replacement, best bet would be to look for repossessed cars by banks. These would be low mileage units, but you have to be patient in choosing one. Good luck.

**Jeff2308** · February 21st, 2016 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Dezaremos

Thanks for the inputs sir .. I really appreciate it ..

I really want to upgrade to a vios because it a newer model, I also thought a Vios can give me atleast 12kl/per li .. My daily route is office to house & vice versa with light to moderate traffic .. But I also do errands from my wife's business on weekends in moderate to heavy traffic ..

Based on your computations, will it be a good move to just replaced all the underchassis components of my AE101 that needed replacements rather than replace it with a vios ???

I just wanted a Vios to have a newer car than my GLi but I'm not planning to hold on to it forever .. Maybe 3 to 4 years only ...

Vios MT 2016 can give you 12km per liter mix city/ highway based on full tank computation.