2013 AT - Montero 4x4 vs Santa Fe 4x2 vs Chevrolet Trailblazer 4x4

[Starex_Gold]

Hayop yung Trailblazer ang low revving!

[Gerbo]

Tanong ko lang, timing gear ba Monty at Trailblazer?

[babynos01]

Swiched on din Montysport sa 1st leg palang.

Switched on na pati yung center diff? Parang naka 4H lang kasi. Hindi naka ilaw yung center differential lock sa dash.
Madaya, puro advance electronics yung Trailblazer! Unfair yan! Ang katapat na nyan Prado at Pajero!

Pero nung inakyat namin yung Mount Samat (dambana ng kagitingan, up to the parking at the top) with 7 people on board plus luggage for 4 days,
wala ako naging problem.
Kayang kaya ng 2nd gear, minsan nag third pa ako kung medyo mabilis na. Once lang ako nag primera kasi yung Urvan nahirapan e, biglang tumigil

Pero, hands down ako sa Trailblazer. Sana lang mag offer ng ganito yung japs. At 1.8M (or less) you get TCS, ESP, etc.

[babynos01]

Tanong ko lang, timing gear ba Monty at Trailblazer?

Yung monty kung 2.5 timing belt.
Yung 3.2 sir, hindi ko sure kung naka timing chain. Pero ang alam ko oo.
Yung sa trailblazer, hindi ko alam sir.

[glenn_duke]

Switched on na pati yung center diff? Parang naka 4H lang kasi. Hindi naka ilaw yung center differential lock sa dash.
Madaya, puro advance electronics yung Trailblazer! Unfair yan! Ang katapat na nyan Prado at Pajero!

Pero nung inakyat namin yung Mount Samat (dambana ng kagitingan, up to the parking at the top) with 7 people on board plus luggage for 4 days,
wala ako naging problem.
Kayang kaya ng 2nd gear, minsan nag third pa ako kung medyo mabilis na. Once lang ako nag primera kasi yung Urvan nahirapan e, biglang tumigil

Pero, hands down ako sa Trailblazer. Sana lang mag offer ng ganito yung japs. At 1.8M (or less) you get TCS, ESP, etc.

Naka 4H nga lang yung gear ng montero sa video, kung naka 4L yun iilaw dapat yung light sa center lock.
Sinadya ng Chevy yan, otherwise walang silbi yung self serving nilang video.

With regards to TCS, yung GTV or SE version ng MS ay may Hybrid LSD na, kaya the need for the TCS is not that needed na. Idadgdag mopa yung shift on the fly at 100kph to 4H and 4L.

Maraming MS sa Coldillera na 4x2 variants lang and yet they conquer all road type of the province. Hindi promotional gimmick yan, posted sa MSCP yung mga adventures nila.

[111prez]

Naka 4H nga lang yung gear ng montero sa video, kung naka 4L yun iilaw dapat yung light sa center lock.
Sinadya ng Chevy yan, otherwise walang silbi yung self serving nilang video.

With regards to TCS, yung GTV or SE version ng MS ay may Hybrid LSD na, kaya the need for the TCS is not that needed na. Idadgdag mopa yung shift on the fly at 100kph to 4H and 4L.

If I am not mistaken, that video has already been debunked as a self serving advertising promotion replete with too many obvious manipulations (including the manner of driving)

Best to wait for a more objective comparo done by a reputable tester

:hysterical:

[arsen]

Naka 4H nga lang yung gear ng montero sa video, kung naka 4L yun iilaw dapat yung light sa center lock.
Sinadya ng Chevy yan, otherwise walang silbi yung self serving nilang video.

With regards to TCS, yung GTV or SE version ng MS ay may Hybrid LSD na, kaya the need for the TCS is not that needed na. Idadgdag mopa yung shift on the fly at 100kph to 4H and 4L.

Maraming MS sa Coldillera na 4x2 variants lang and yet they conquer all road type of the province. Hindi promotional gimmick yan, posted sa MSCP yung mga adventures nila.

Hahaha parang city boy na maglalakad sa palayan si TB... ingat na ingat at ayaw madulas... Yayain nyo si TB minsan, magset lang kayo ng maraming waiting points at magdala ng baraha, tong-its muna just in-case he make use of all of his gapangers features.

Wow grabe naman pala ang brake manipulation features ng 2.8 at mga built-in retarders. Pwedeng-pwede nang magkasnow sa pinas kung meron ka nang TB. Aside from a must have Anti-Lock Braking System and Dynamic Brake Distribution meron pa syang mga extras:

Electronic Stability Program
Hill Start Assist
Hill Descent Control
Traction Control
Hydraulic Brake Assist
Panic Brake Assist
Electronic Stability Control
Engine drag control
Cornering Brake control
Hydraulic Brake Fade Assist

The additional controller chips, programming, parts and sensors could cost the manufacture around 1,000-2000 dollars (rough estimate).

Just wondering how much is the cost to maintain such active / complementary safety systems that could easily wear the vital mechanical parts.

Anyway this is good news at binabagsakan na tayo ng mga products and accessories na designed for 5 -years life cycle business model. It means tumataas na talaga ang antas ng buhay sa Pinas at sa SE-Asia. Nakikipagsabayan na tayo.

[babynos01]

Naka 4H nga lang yung gear ng montero sa video, kung naka 4L yun iilaw dapat yung light sa center lock.
Sinadya ng Chevy yan, otherwise walang silbi yung self serving nilang video.

With regards to TCS, yung GTV or SE version ng MS ay may Hybrid LSD na, kaya the need for the TCS is not that needed na. Idadgdag mopa yung shift on the fly at 100kph to 4H and 4L.

Maraming MS sa Coldillera na 4x2 variants lang and yet they conquer all road type of the province. Hindi promotional gimmick yan, posted sa MSCP yung mga adventures nila.

Pansin ko nga e. Possible na naka 4H montero tapos naka 4WD Lock yung Trailblazer.
The good thing about the TCS is that all wheels are monitored. Sa montero kasi, rear LSD lang so only the rear wheels get the better traction.
Yung front diff nya kasi is an open type.

[arsen]

Wow grabe naman pala ang brake manipulation features ng 2.8 at mga built-in retarders. Pwedeng-pwede nang magkasnow sa pinas kung meron ka nang TB. Aside from a must have Anti-Lock Braking System and Dynamic Brake Distribution meron pa syang mga extras:

Electronic Stability Program
Hill Start Assist
Hill Descent Control
Traction Control
Hydraulic Brake Assist
Panic Brake Assist
Electronic Stability Control
Engine drag control
Cornering Brake control
Hydraulic Brake Fade Assist

Napansin ko lang wala sa listahan ko ang Positraction (Chevy/GMC version of Limited Slip Differential)

Wala nga ba LSD ang Trailblazer? It has to rely on the disc brakes?

Hope somebody try it in a muddy slippery trail, yung kahit knee deep lang na umabot sa disc brakes ang putik. Just to see the difference of sealed in axle (gear oil coated) vs exposed (mud coated) traction control.

[babynos01]

As far as i know, just as what sir glenn_duke said, kapag may TCS na, hindi na kailangan yung LSD.
Yung Pajero BK also have a MASTC kaya wala syang LSD. Same with our 4WD Tucson