Low Cost of Ownership, High Ground Clearance, Brand new. Need help to decide

[lutepea]

Hi,

I'm currently looking to get a new car for daily use. Factors to consider is yung cost of ownership, yung ground clearance (yung hindi po sana sumasayad sa humps, pwede iakyat sa gutter, at pwede mag reverse park sa mga steep inclines).

Current options:
Toyota Rush 1.5 E A/T at 1M
Isuzu MU-X LS A/T at 1.3M

Car usage would be:
20,000 to 30,000 KM Per Year.
Will keep the car for at least 10 years, estimate up to 15 years.
Will not be selling the car afterwards, ipapadala nalang sa province.
If possible, sariling maintain lang sana sa sasakyan, change oil sa gas station, refill fluids, palit mga filter, etc. Then kapag may nasira, dun lang ipapagawa sa CASA or sa Mechanic.

Factors to consider sa cost of ownership:
Vehicle Price
Maintenance Cost
Expected Repairs
Insurance
Registration
Fuel Consumption

Please help me decide. Thanks in advance guys!

[sirkosero]

Mux.

Rush is a glorified avanza. Its not even a real toyota

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[Lakwatsero]

Sama mo Innova E sa choices, may discount sila this month I think 75 or 80k.

[sirkosero]

Sama mo Innova E sa choices, may discount sila this month I think 75 or 80k.

95k. Used to be 110k.

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[lutepea]

Mux.

Rush is a glorified avanza. Its not even a real toyota

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Mas makakatipid kaya ako sir sa overall cost of ownership ng MU-X? 300k din kasi difference sa brand new price eh hehe. Pero iniisip ko po sir sa MU-X baka makatipid ako dahil sa lower fuel consumption at mas mura ng konti yung diesel. Hindi ko lang po alam sa maintenance kung ano mas mahal sa dalawa hehe.

Sama mo Innova E sa choices, may discount sila this month I think 75 or 80k.

Mukhang okay din yung Innova sir. Interested ako dun sa 2.8L engine hehe. Pero interests aside, worry ko lang po ng konti yung approach angle. Yung ground clearance mukhang okay naman for humps and pag akyat sa mga gutter. Pero pag reverse park sir sa mga inclined na parking spaces. Baka sumayad yung harapan kapag paalis na? Sa Fortuner kasi sir mga 2 inches lang yung allowance bago sumayad.

[nelyoung]

Mux.

Rush is a glorified avanza. Its not even a real toyota

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Same here. MUX LS. its a better choice than the Rush. They said, MUX LS is the best substitute by Isuzu Phils for the Crosswind..

[n_spinner06]

Hi,

I'm currently looking to get a new car for daily use. Factors to consider is yung cost of ownership, yung ground clearance (yung hindi po sana sumasayad sa humps, pwede iakyat sa gutter, at pwede mag reverse park sa mga steep inclines).

Current options:
Toyota Rush 1.5 E A/T at 1M
Isuzu MU-X LS A/T at 1.3M

Car usage would be:
20,000 to 30,000 KM Per Year.
Will keep the car for at least 10 years, estimate up to 15 years.
Will not be selling the car afterwards, ipapadala nalang sa province.
If possible, sariling maintain lang sana sa sasakyan, change oil sa gas station, refill fluids, palit mga filter, etc. Then kapag may nasira, dun lang ipapagawa sa CASA or sa Mechanic.

Factors to consider sa cost of ownership:
Vehicle Price
Maintenance Cost
Expected Repairs
Insurance
Registration
Fuel Consumption

Please help me decide. Thanks in advance guys!

Sa price, assuming a 10peso diff between gas and diesel, and assuming you get on average 7kmpl on the rush, you would break even between 7-10years (20-30k annual mileage). Considering you will be using this for 10+ years, i would say halos pareho lang cost sa lifetime ng vehicle if you factor in the extra expenses...masmahal insurance for the costlier vehicle, financing costs if hindi cash, consumables, parts/maintenance, tire replacements after several years, etc. Bottomline, the less mileage/years you put in the more in favor of the rush and vice versa. 30k km annually is a lot of kms. thats a daily run of 80+km.

Also, the 1.5L rush has better power to weight ratio than the rz4e mux. And more airbags too so that's a plus on the safety dept. The mux would be heavier built though and would be better for rough use.

Good luck on your choice!

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[dr. d]

Mux.

Rush is a glorified avanza. Its not even a real toyota

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"so what?"
what avanza do to you?
heh heh.

wigo is not a real toyota, either (whatever that means).
yet it's selling like hotcakes.

[dr. d]

Sa price, assuming a 10peso diff between gas and diesel, and assuming you get on average 7kmpl on the rush, you would break even between 7-10years (20-30k annual mileage). Considering you will be using this for 10+ years, i would say halos pareho lang cost sa lifetime ng vehicle if you factor in the extra expenses...masmahal insurance for the costlier vehicle, financing costs if hindi cash, consumables, parts/maintenance, tire replacements after several years, etc. Bottomline, the less mileage/years you put in the more in favor of the rush and vice versa. 30k km annually is a lot of kms. thats a daily run of 80+km.

Also, the 1.5L rush has better power to weight ratio than the rz4e mux. And more airbags too so that's a plus on the safety dept. The mux would be heavier built though and would be better for rough use.

Good luck on your choice!

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are you rooting for the rush, or the mux?

diesels are built more robustly, because of the higher pressures and temperatures involved in their operation.
as such, parts don't seem to wear out as fast as one might believe.
also, diesels tend to give more km/peso than gas engined-cars, partly because diesel fuel is cheaper than gasoline.

one dis-advantage of diesel maintenance, is that they usually need more oil.

but hey! one can't argue against the 200K peso difference!
while some folks look at the longer-range picture, others might be more mindful of the shorter course.

then, there's garage space.
if you don't have a big garage, don't buy a big car, lest you end up parking it overnight on the street.
...don't have a garage? ...what can i say!

a real test-drive would be nice.

[Lakwatsero]

Mas makakatipid kaya ako sir sa overall cost of ownership ng MU-X? 300k din kasi difference sa brand new price eh hehe. Pero iniisip ko po sir sa MU-X baka makatipid ako dahil sa lower fuel consumption at mas mura ng konti yung diesel. Hindi ko lang po alam sa maintenance kung ano mas mahal sa dalawa hehe.



Mukhang okay din yung Innova sir. Interested ako dun sa 2.8L engine hehe. Pero interests aside, worry ko lang po ng konti yung approach angle. Yung ground clearance mukhang okay naman for humps and pag akyat sa mga gutter. Pero pag reverse park sir sa mga inclined na parking spaces. Baka sumayad yung harapan kapag paalis na? Sa Fortuner kasi sir mga 2 inches lang yung allowance bago sumayad.

Ito basic computation lang, not including maintenance. Assuming city driving:

Rush 7km/l, Gasoline P50/l, P7.15 per km fuel cost.

MU-X 9km/l, Diesel P40/l P4.44 per km fuel cost.

Savings of P2.7 per km for Mu-X

If 300k price difference, divide mo sa P2.7, lalabas 111k km kailangan itakbo ng Mu-X bago mo mabawi yung 300k difference sa price.

Assume natin hanggang 250k km mo gamitin yung sasakyan, may savings ka ng P675k on fuel cost.

Nabawi mo na price difference, may P375K ka pa, tingin ko more than enough yan para pambayad sa additional maintenance, kahit magpalit ka pa ng turbo at injectors, may sukli pa. Pero knowing Isuzu, 250k baliwala lang.

Disadvantage higher upfront cost, pero kung bank financing, konting difference sa monthly, mababawi mo rin sa fuel savings. Mas sulit talaga diesel sa atin.

Going back to Innova, never pa ko nakakita sumayad sa steep parking spaces or parking ramps. Imo mas sulit Innova vs Mu-X. Mas mabilis mo pa mababawi vs if kukuha ng Mu-X. Nasa 1.2+M na lang bnew.