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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Diesel.

    Went to Baguio last week to spend the Holy Week there. With 5 occupants and a full cargo compartment, I got 13 km/L going up to Baguio.

    Going down, I got 14.9 km/L.
    Bro i'm assuming your fc is the average from manila to baguio and back. Ang tipid ang ride mo, eco mode ka ba sa figures na ito?
    Maganda sana if you tried to reset your trip meter before hitting the incline to Baguio para malaman mo ang fc nya sa akyatan.

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    Para sa akin sedan or CUB ay gas dahil mas gusto ko smooth and tahimik ang ride...pero kung midsize SUV/Van ay diesel mas gusto ko. True mas mura diesel pero bibilangin mo ng ilang taon bago mo mabawi binayad mo sa brand new na sasakyan na diesel kaysa gas.

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    Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

    Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

    Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

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    Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;2725256
    Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

    Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

    Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

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    Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.
    who's complaining that diesel is so cheap?
    also, diesel emissions can be made cleaner, if we are willing to spend money for the technology.
    and yess... we do need political will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

    Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

    Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

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    Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.
    Modern crdi diesels are much cleaner than the people's favorite vvt-i engine

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Modern crdi diesels are much cleaner than the people's favorite vvt-i engine

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    Ilan years na sinasabi yan na kesyo modern crdi diesel are much cleaner blah blah blah.

    I will explain sa next post ko. We are in the philippines.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eryxon View Post
    Halata sir na di mo kabisado ang Diesel. Sa Truck at pickup mas maganda talaga ang diesel dahil sa torque. Sa mga small cars and motorcycle kaya gasoline karaniwan ay dahil gasoline engine is light and cheaper. Sa ngayon kapag naka diesel ka meaning can afford ka dahil higit na mas mahal ang diesel.
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    I do not agree kapag naka diesel "can afford" Adventure? Innova? Crosswind? Montero, MUX, Fortuner, Everest? These car are cheap for its size and engine. Ito usually una binibili ng familyang piilipino. Nagtitipid nga kaya yan binili.

    If you want to talk about can afford it should the alphard, previa, oddysey, explorer, fj cruiser, accord, camry, cefiro.

    Ito na lang the battle of the hatchback. Magkano ang jazz vs CRDI accent hatch. Oh di ba sulit na sulit ang accent hatch.

    Sa mutor walang diesel akong alam dahil ang diesel engine ay mabigat. Diesel injection system palang baka kasing bigat na nga engine ng motorcycle.
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    Meron diesel na motorcycle pero kakaunti lang gumagawa nito at yun iba nagsarado na.

    Kaya ko pinasok "Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito." To point out na hindi ako bias na dahil gasoline mga motorcycle eh ok na. Dapat nga puro electric na lang motorcycle. I know mabagal but its so quiet.

    Natawa ako sa "too cheap and dirty". Actually ang diesel kung calibrated mas sunog na sunog bago lumabas sa tambutso.
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    Ayan ikaw na nagsabi " kung" calibrated mas sunog na sunog bago lumabas sa tambutso"

    Again "Kung"..............

    Nasa pilipinas tayo. Ano ba nakikita nyo sa kalsada lumalabas sa tambutso ng diesel engine? Mga montero, santafe ang iitim ng usok eh "CRDI" pa mga yan.

    What im trying to point out : A poorly maintaned diesel vs poorly maintained gasoline engine eh the latter wins

    Do you think the owner of fleets delivery FB body will follow proper engine maintenance? Magtitipid yan, walang pakialam kung itim usok basta umandar. Gulong nga kalbo na gamit pa rin.

    I do not like jejomar binay. But i love his anti diesel policy at makati.

    Gagoh lang talaga procedure ng ASBU. Itodo bomba ba naman gas pedal. Tapos takot na takot kayo baka masira. Can afford ba? hahahahaahah

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    *kagalingan
    One of the peso billionaires I know who owns an oil mill among other businesses only uses 2 cars: a 23 year old Patrol and a diesel Innova. Another family of brokers with a net worth of around Php 600M only has 1 shared car, a Crosswind. Although they enjoy the occasional cruise every year or so, in general they are very thrifty. Just because someone "can afford" something doesn't mean you should buy it. There are also a lot of rich people who buy nice cars be it gasoline or diesel. And a lot of people who can barely afford to maintain a nice gas vehicle but do so living the mantra "fake it til you make it". Most of them never do. If you think shiny expensive things are an indicator of what a person "can afford", I recommend you watch the local program On The Money on ANC.

    Try not to generalize people. I've been humbled several times by doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
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    Ilan years na sinasabi yan na kesyo modern crdi diesel are much cleaner blah blah blah.

    I will explain sa next post ko. We are in the philippines.....
    Stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Diesel is so backward and too cheap and dirty. Lalo lang lalakas loob ng fejodap, piston, pasangmazda and acto.

    Pero dito sa pinas hindi pa kaya all gasoline and electric cars. Madami pa kailangan iaccomodate.

    Example na lang mga motorcycle dapat hindi yan inallowed ganyan kadami tapos wala pa regulation sa muffler grabe kaingay. Eh kahit gasoline karamihan ng motorcycle eh dapat regulated ito. Kakapal ng face magpaingay pero pag sumemplang naman hingi tulong.

    -

    Ang diesel lang dapat para sa heavy duty equipment, 16 wheeler trucks and the like. Pero sa passenger car, suv it should be gas or eletric. Kahit yung mga delivery vans dapat gas din.

    Halata sir na di mo kabisado ang Diesel. Sa Truck at pickup mas maganda talaga ang diesel dahil sa torque. Sa mga small cars and motorcycle kaya gasoline karaniwan ay dahil gasoline engine is light and cheaper. Sa ngayon kapag naka diesel ka meaning can afford ka dahil higit na mas mahal ang diesel.

    Sa mutor walang diesel akong alam dahil ang diesel engine ay mabigat. Diesel injection system palang baka kasing bigat na nga engine ng motorcycle.

    Natawa ako sa "too cheap and dirty". Actually ang diesel kung calibrated mas sunog na sunog bago lumabas sa tambutso.

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