Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[electone]

Sirs and madam,

May I know where I could get Zaino products here in the Philippines? Your help would be very much appreciated. TIA

[PSI]

yes they use carlack for the optiguard and yes you can apply collinite every month, even every week if you want. if you are planning on waxing monthly then i would suggest 476 so that you get more than enough protection, but for ease of use definitely get the 845 instead.

Im now thinking if 845 will do my car more good than 476....hmmmmm....................................i'll stick with 885 for my roof/trunk/hood...... and stay away from girly wax........ next time i'll try your beloved 915...i'll try to bring the black car by fri night next week

[Lyle]

usually its swirlX first then cleaner wax but i would recommend pre-wax cleaner instead of cleaner wax since it can improve the paint to accept step 2 and the rest by removing polishing oils from swirlX

Nalilito talaga ako... iba pa yung pre-cleaner wax sa cleaner wax? Step 1 ng mothers ay pre-cleaner wax ryt?

Ayaw ko kasi matanggal yung old wax ko kasi 2 years palang car ko at makintab pa, just want to improve and maintain its shine and gloss.

[mf051404]

Nalilito talaga ako... iba pa yung pre-cleaner wax sa cleaner wax? Step 1 ng mothers ay pre-cleaner wax ryt?

Ayaw ko kasi matanggal yung old wax ko kasi 2 years palang car ko at makintab pa, just want to improve and maintain its shine and gloss.

Mas maganda sigurong i-define na lang:
Cleaner Wax : wax na merong cleaning properties...shortcut to cleaning then waxing (done in one step)

Pre-wax cleaner (not pre-cleaner wax) : cleaner (pang-linis)..bago ka apply ng wax (thus for the term pre-wax), para kumapit yung wax (wax in this sense are the ones na walang cleaning properties (walang abrasives)

[mf051404]

yes they use carlack for the optiguard and yes you can apply collinite every month, even every week if you want. if you are planning on waxing monthly then i would suggest 476 so that you get more than enough protection, but for ease of use definitely get the 845 instead.

This does not imply that you can't use 476 weekly, or maski daily pa nga eh...it's just that mas mahirap sya i-apply compared sa 845...pero kung kaya naman why not, right ma'am MadKatz? ...pero not necessary naman na weekly ka mag-476s dahil durable sya...

[mf051404]

So bale sir it's ok to include the cleaner wax in my next week detailing plan even though mag two years palang car ko at makintab pa rin? Hindi mawawala yung orginal na wax at top coat niya?

Here's what I'm planning kasi:

1. car wash
2. claybar
3. (cleaner wax) - undecided
4. swirlX
5. step 2
6. final wax

Going back to your prior post..maybe here's what you have to do instead considering yung sabi ni ma'am Madkatz
1. car wash
2. claybar
4. swirlX - if you need to do some correction (remove swirls)
5. step 2 - I'm not familiar with this brand...dito papasok yung pre-wax cleaner (para malinisan na din yung oils ni SwirlX, kung pre-wax cleaner si step 2 then go...
6. final wax

gets na?

[Starex_Gold]

Easy lang mf051404

Guys, talaga bang hindi gaano ka-kintab yung 476S?

Meron kayo pics na 476S alone yung naka apply?

Kukuha ako ng isa eh

[madkatz]

Sirs and madam,

May I know where I could get Zaino products here in the Philippines? Your help would be very much appreciated. TIA

As far as i know there's nobody here that sells Zaino, we used to import it before and tried to sell it even at marginal prices and people still find them very expensive so we stopped, right now we're also on the look out for some zaino products but we still can't find any, so i guess im stuck till december to have my next batches of their sealants

[madkatz]

Im now thinking if 845 will do my car more good than 476....hmmmmm....................................i'll stick with 885 for my roof/trunk/hood...... and stay away from girly wax........ next time i'll try your beloved 915...i'll try to bring the black car by fri night next week

845 is the liquid version of 476, basically its 476 in liquid and more volume but also about half the protection, its very easy to apply which makes it more popular around the world compared to collinite waxes, but collinite waxes definitely last a lot longer than 845 and yes i agree with mf051404 that 476 is very durable that you don't need to wax weekly

[madkatz]

Nalilito talaga ako... iba pa yung pre-cleaner wax sa cleaner wax? Step 1 ng mothers ay pre-cleaner wax ryt?

Ayaw ko kasi matanggal yung old wax ko kasi 2 years palang car ko at makintab pa, just want to improve and maintain its shine and gloss.

like what mf051404 said

Cleaner wax - mild cleaner + wax

Prewax Cleaner - stronger cleaner without wax

now if your concern is removing old layers of wax then i can assure you that using both will definitely remove your old layers of wax

if your concern is reduction in your clear coat then you don't have anything to worry about

Like i said before the main difference lies with Pre-wax cleaner being a stronger cleaner but doesn't contain waxes so you definitely have to follow up with a wax, with pre-wax cleaner is also cleans your paint and leaves a layer of wax but its doesn't last as long as a pure wax

removing old layers of waxes is actually good for the paint, old layers of wax could dull the paint overtime and actually be oxidized that why its advisable to remove old layers of wax before putting a new layer on, removing old layers of wax also ensures a clean surface for the fresh wax to bond properly to the paint.