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[PSI]

hope that seal will come out soon.... good for 2mos tops lang eto nakapatong sa car ko considering the harsh treatment its getting.....

[jmpet626]

May nakakapansin ba sa inyo ng shine ng wax vs sealant? Di ko ma distinguish kasi shine ng 915 at ksg...

[rico_g]

has anybody tried Mom's Scratch Remover for swirls and water marks? or for spot treatment lang dapat to?

I'm planning to use it with BnD KP600 na ROP... i'd like to ask around first, baka nkaka-damage ng paint...

I am aware SwirlX will do the job, pero sayang kc used once lang ung Moms

[PSI]

May nakakapansin ba sa inyo ng shine ng wax vs sealant? Di ko ma distinguish kasi shine ng 915 at ksg...

Idol....correct me if im wrong but iba ang silbi or main job ng sealant and wax....yes me simmilarity but magkaiba pa rin..... masmakintab ang 915 mo idol vs sealant.......... kung pagandahan ng protection sa paint....let us assume parehong double coat and same environment ....i would say i'd go for the sealant (assuming maganda yung sealant since maganda ang 915)....... wait tayo ng opti seal....... ....wait me KSG ka na pala.... ang kelangan mo ata yung booster or yung pang quick dry..... para makarami ka agad ng layer.....nice

[madkatz]

*jmpey626: if you really want to see the difference, put 915 on one side of the car and KSG on the other side of the car and put it out in the sun, you notice that KSG reflects more light than 915 and 915 would be slightly darker, another thing you could do is at night hit different panels with a halogen lamp you should see the main difference in the reflection and in what we call halo's

[madkatz]

has anybody tried Mom's Scratch Remover for swirls and water marks? or for spot treatment lang dapat to?

I'm planning to use it with BnD KP600 na ROP... i'd like to ask around first, baka nkaka-damage ng paint...

I am aware SwirlX will do the job, pero sayang kc used once lang ung Moms

we've tried it already and you can use it for swirl and water mark removal but you just have to work faster with Moms Scratch remover compared to SwirlX, SwirlX has a longer play time for you to work the polish, Scratch Remover dries up really really fast, and take note that scratch remove is already quite aggressive in its nature but since you're using kp600 you should be fine since kp600's correcting ability is minimal

[Nik]

Ahh D151 is a lot like Megs 66, for me the difference lies only with the abrasives used, 66 uses diminishing and d151 uses SMAT, its not the same as AG SRP the closest i can compared to AG SRP is Klasse AIO its pretty much like a sealant with milder than KAIO cleaning abilities although it uses mechanical abrasives as its cleaners so yes it can smooth out some swirls but not on the same level of correction as 66 and d151, AG SRP is actually considered by most as a sealant already but in the truest sense its a cleaner sealant like KAIO, FK Ultra Wipe, OPT Poli-seal and werkstat prime

*madkatz this means ang aG SRP pwede gawan ng apat na layer? like KSG and WGDGPS? so pwede syang alternative ng KSG and WGDGps as Sealant? i thought Polish sya kaya inalis ko si megs step 2 DC system Polish.. yun pala hindi

so CLAY , megs step 1 , megs step 2, AG SRP x 4 layers + collinite .. ganyan magiging process every 6months?

if Sealant nga ang aG SRP.. ano mas maganda AG SRP or Opti seal?

[red16]

hmmm well if you ask me the usual going rate for painting per panel is at 3k but thats just spraying a color coat and a clear coat and some sanding, if its stripped down to the metal it goes up to 4k, this usually entails removing anything down to the metal, re-spraying with primer, color coat and clear coat, the result is a much more sturdy finish than a painted on top paint job, so if its 4k and exterior detailing goes at around 3k, that price is just about right but for it to be just about right make sure that they'll do a thorough and complete exterior detail so you get your moneys worth, if they'll just remove some scratches and not really buff the entire car then its not worth 7k, but thats just my 2 cents

ok! thanks sa idea madkatz!

[red16]

hmmm well if you ask me the usual going rate for painting per panel is at 3k but thats just spraying a color coat and a clear coat and some sanding, if its stripped down to the metal it goes up to 4k, this usually entails removing anything down to the metal, re-spraying with primer, color coat and clear coat, the result is a much more sturdy finish than a painted on top paint job, so if its 4k and exterior detailing goes at around 3k, that price is just about right but for it to be just about right make sure that they'll do a thorough and complete exterior detail so you get your moneys worth, if they'll just remove some scratches and not really buff the entire car then its not worth 7k, but thats just my 2 cents

ok! thanks sa idea madkatz!

[madkatz]

*madkatz this means ang aG SRP pwede gawan ng apat na layer? like KSG and WGDGPS? so pwede syang alternative ng KSG and WGDGps as Sealant? i thought Polish sya kaya inalis ko si megs step 2 DC system Polish.. yun pala hindi

so CLAY , megs step 1 , megs step 2, AG SRP x 4 layers + collinite .. ganyan magiging process every 6months?

if Sealant nga ang aG SRP.. ano mas maganda AG SRP or Opti seal?

As for the AG SRP, my answer is yes and no, why's that my answer? ok lets just say that like i previously mentioned AG SRP is a cleaner sealant, which means it also removes previously applied sealant so in that essence no it cannot be applied, however if you don't put enough pressure and just apply it like you're gliding the foam applicator as light as possible and removing it as light as possible as well then yes you can layer it but take note even though you use this method you are still removing portions of the previous layer, so its still best to stick to pure sealants like WGDGPS and KSG since they are pure sealant that is also meant to be layered

it is in some essence a polish because its contains polishes but it also leaves a layer of sealant behind, thats why its called a cleaner sealant

you process would be clay, step1, step 2, AG SRP at most 2x only and then collinite, its practically pointless to layer more than 2 layers of a cleaner sealant

as for the AG SRP and Opti-seal, again they don't belong to the same category, Opti-seal is considered a pure sealant, AG SRP is considered a cleaner sealant, pure sealants are much much more durable and offer more protection than cleaner sealants so they don't belong to the same class