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**innoBOB[09JmtG]** · July 13th, 2009 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by ess

A wash mitt is a big glove with either wool or cotton/chenille nap. The purpose of the wash mitt is to be able to hold more water and car shampoo solution and allow you to was a larger surface area. The nap will also capture and trap dirt and prevent it from scrubbing on the paint surface of your car.

Swirls are very shallow BUT numerous scratches on your car's paint. If you park your car under the sun or if you aim a flashlight to your car, and you start seeing cobweb like patterns, swirls yon. Improper washing techniques often cause swirl marks. (Having your car washed by those pesky mall carwash boys is a sure fire way of getting swirlmarks. :D )

Try using your car shampoo first... maybe even try using it undiluted (pure) on the grease spots. If it works, make sure to immediately follow up with a full coat of car wax.

why need the follow up on wax?

how can we avoid swirls?

**ess** · July 13th, 2009 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by innoBOB[09JmtG]

why need the follow up on wax?

If you removed the grease marks/smudge with concentrated car shampoo, you'll most likely strip off the wax that you've applied on the paint. That is why you'll need to follow up the treatment with a fresh coat of wax.

Originally Posted by innoBOB[09JmtG]

how can we avoid swirls?

When washing your car, always use a plush, clean wash mitt. Also, if you are willing, use a separate wash mitt for the top portions of your car (roof, hood, trunk), and another wash mitt for the bottom portions -- doors, bumpers, etc.

If your car is dusty, never, ever wipe your car with a dry rag. Mosten your rag first, preferrably with a good quick detailer spray solution.

Speaking of rags, NEVER EVER use an old t-shirt or a pranela if you want to avoid swirls. Get a nice microfibre cloth rag.

Lastly, NEVER have your car washed by those mall parking boys. Hehehehe... Unless you want you car to look like it just hosted an NHL game.

**innoBOB[09JmtG]** · July 13th, 2009 04:35 PM

what if i still didn't waxed, but there's already grease to remove, do i still need to wax after using pure car shampoo?

**james00112233** · July 13th, 2009 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by ess

If your car is dusty, never, ever wipe your car with a dry rag. Mosten your rag first, preferrably with a good quick detailer spray solution.

you can also use cali car duster..

**ess** · July 13th, 2009 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by innoBOB[09JmtG]

what if i still didn't waxed, but there's already grease to remove, do i still need to wax after using pure car shampoo?

Yes. In fact, you should wax your car regularly.
If you already had a coat of wax prior to the grease stain incident, you'll probably have an easier time removing the stain.

Originally Posted by james00112233

you can also use cali car duster..

Yeah! Hehehe... I forgot to mention that.

**Chikselog** · July 14th, 2009 10:54 AM

newbie here about swirls..yun pala tawag dun, pag naiilawan parang gasgas na parang linya linya..bawal pala ung old tshirt, huhu yun pa naman ginagamit ko kainis..

paano po pag may swirls na? paano po yun matatanggal/mababawasan?
and anung brand po ba ng wax ang magandang gamitin? pref. ko since tag-ulan na sana yung di agad natatanggal pag naulanan..

sana masagot lahat ng tanong ko hehe para maayos ko yung itsura ng paint..thanks

**ess** · July 14th, 2009 07:00 PM

If the swirling is minor, you can probably get away with wax or sealant with fillers. I think the Mother's Step 2 (sealant glaze) does this. But note that once the fillers wear out, you'll see those swirls again.

If the swirling is major, you have no other choice but to have those defects removed either via DIY or through the services of a reputable detailer. Swirl removal WILL involve buffing. Buffing involves paint removal (very minimal lang naman). After your swirls are buffed out, the detailer will then apply a good coat of sealant or wax (depende sa choice mo) to protect your paint.

What method you choose depends on how you maintain your car. If you can commit yourself to religiously maintaining your car's paint, then by all means, have your swirls removed. Then just regularly maintain your paint using proper car washing techniques and waxing. This will prevent swirls.

If you cannot commit to regular maintenance, defect removal might not be a good choice. Imagine.. if you will frequently have to have your paint buffed out every time you've accumulated a lot of swirls, baka maubos ang clearcoat mo.

Anyway... since you've posted in this thread, I'm sure you're already committed to regular maintenance. Hence, I recommend have your swirls removed by a detailer.

**Chikselog** · July 19th, 2009 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by ess

If the swirling is minor, you can probably get away with wax or sealant with fillers. I think the Mother's Step 2 (sealant glaze) does this. But note that once the fillers wear out, you'll see those swirls again.

If the swirling is major, you have no other choice but to have those defects removed either via DIY or through the services of a reputable detailer. Swirl removal WILL involve buffing. Buffing involves paint removal (very minimal lang naman). After your swirls are buffed out, the detailer will then apply a good coat of sealant or wax (depende sa choice mo) to protect your paint.

What method you choose depends on how you maintain your car. If you can commit yourself to religiously maintaining your car's paint, then by all means, have your swirls removed. Then just regularly maintain your paint using proper car washing techniques and waxing. This will prevent swirls.

If you cannot commit to regular maintenance, defect removal might not be a good choice. Imagine.. if you will frequently have to have your paint buffed out every time you've accumulated a lot of swirls, baka maubos ang clearcoat mo.

Anyway... since you've posted in this thread, I'm sure you're already committed to regular maintenance. Hence, I recommend have your swirls removed by a detailer.

oh okay..hehe kaso paano po pag di ko afford magparemove ng swirls? student pa lang po kasi ako, 17 yrs. old hehe..gusto ko lang po talagang alagaan kotse namin kasi ginagamit ko din po..tsaka 2008 vios po yun kaya ayaw ko din po na masira agad agad yung paint..yun nga po pinagkakagastusan ko eh..
btw what's DIY? thanks po

**jonjon_u** · July 19th, 2009 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Chikselog

newbie here about swirls..yun pala tawag dun, pag naiilawan parang gasgas na parang linya linya

Ngayong alam mo na, palagi mo na mapapansin yan sa mga auto.

**jonjon_u** · July 19th, 2009 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Chikselog

oh okay..hehe kaso paano po pag di ko afford magparemove ng swirls? student pa lang po kasi ako, 17 yrs. old hehe..gusto ko lang po talagang alagaan kotse namin kasi ginagamit ko din po..tsaka 2008 vios po yun kaya ayaw ko din po na masira agad agad yung paint..yun nga po pinagkakagastusan ko eh..
btw what's DIY? thanks po

Don't worry too much.

Ganyan din ako ang start nun, parang nakaka-overwhelm yung dami ng products.

Kung gusto mo mag-DIY (do-it-yourself), just do your research, tapos kuha o bili ka lang ng paunti unti. Makakabuo ka rin ng collection mo. Mapapansin mo na every product will its place and function in your detailing arsenal.

Just think of detailing as a way of *caring* for your car. Done properly, detailing will help keep your car looking good. On the other hand, *neglect* ang isa sa mga nakakasira sa auto.