MVPMAP Statement on the PhUV Feedback Thread in Tsikot.com

[tsikot]

This Statement is in reply to this thread:

MOTOR VEHICLE PARTS MANUFACTURERS ASSN.

of the PHILS. (MVPMAP)

[SIZE=3] July 2, 2007[/SIZE][SIZE=3]

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[SIZE=3]MESSAGE to TSIKOT.COM on the PhUV[/SIZE]

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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3] First of all, we would like to acknowledge the help of tsikot.com and all its members here and abroad who have posted and offered their comments, both positive and negative, about our Philippine Utility Vehicle (PhUV) experimental prototype. So to all you guys & gals, thank you very much.[/SIZE][SIZE=3]
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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]MVPMAP conceptualized and designed the PhUV for a specific target market, a specific price range and specific vehicle applications. It was not intended to either be a "people's car" or a can-do-everything vehicle; neither was it dreamt to be a "perfect" prototype, it being just experimental prototype #1. A lot of improvements will still have to be brought upon the product before it goes to the next level: another prototype (if finances permit) and mass production.[/SIZE][SIZE=3]
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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3] The PhUV was then fabricated and assembled on a shoestring budget. No investments were made on expensive molds, dies and jigs. The over 300 local parts were donated by MVPMAP members. The diesel engine was loaned from Dreamco Automotive. The funding was provided by a consortium of ten MVPMAP officers. The engineers gave their services gratis. Even most of the launching needs were donated by friends who had friends who had friends. Despite these limitations and very limited resources, MVPMAP decided to go ahead and develop the PhUV. And why?[/SIZE][SIZE=3]
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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3] The MVPMAP is an organization of about 130 local auto parts makers. Due to the reduced demand for local parts, most of our members are operating at only 40% of their plant and even worse, some have closed shop. We are reeling from the impact of a stagnant car auto industry sales that have not grown for the last eleven years, not even breaching the 100,000-unit mark (compare this to Thailand with over 800,000 units, Malaysia with over 600,000 units and Indonesia with over 500,000 units); of the increasing sales of CBU vehicles (with no local parts and labor in them); and of the failure to implement a Supreme Court decision completely banning the sale of used imported vehicle, especially via the Subic Freeport.[/SIZE][SIZE=3]
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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3] The local parts making industry is dying and something has to be done fast. MVPMAP is pinning its hopes on the PhUV: that the government and Congress will take notice of it and grant incentives not only to the assemblers but to the parts makers and buyers as well. That the Japanese and American big boys of the local auto industry will look at the sad plight of the local parts making industry and the over 50,000 workers dependent on it and assemble more vehicles out of CKD kits with a high level of local value-added parts and labor. The PhUV is the rallying point of an industry that is slowly being decimated. MVPMAP could definitely not afford the PhUV Program but we took a chance.[/SIZE][SIZE=3]
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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3] We launched the PhUV, ang tunay na sasakyang Pinoy, on a date that is significant to Filipinos, Independence Day. We took a long shot and invited Pres. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo to launch the PhUV and she came. So did DTI Sec. Peter Favila. We had to unveil an experimental prototype before Congress convenes on July 1, 2007 so that when the bill drafted by the Board of Investments on the PhUV Incentives Package is presented before the honorable members of Congress, they will no longer have any doubt that a truly Pinoy vehicle is not just a dream but a reality. They will realize that indeed, given the chance and the support, the Filipino parts makers and craftsmen, not necessarily MVPMAP alone, are capable of designing and building a truly Pinoy vehicle.[/SIZE][SIZE=3]
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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3] We have closely monitored the tsikot.com thread on the PhUV experimental prototype and we appreciate all your comments. We look at the negative ones as constructive criticisms. As a matter of fact, as you read this message, some of your constructive ideas that are doable have been implemented. We have noted down the rest as we re-design (involving style, engineering & fabrication method) the PhUV for hopefully, an experimental prototype #2 and then mass production. We are grateful to the tsikot.com members as you have provided very valuable inputs, particularly in the design aspects.[/SIZE][SIZE=3]
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[/SIZE] [SIZE=3] In closing, we hope that you join us in praying na sana, for the survival of the local parts making industry, magtagumpay ang PhUV, ang sasakyang tunay na Pinoy. Gawa ng Pinoy, para sa Pinoy. Maraming salamat po……… [/SIZE][SIZE=3]

MVPMAP
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[jpdm]

I'm 110% behind you sirs of MVPMAP. In fact, I have been calling you office for the past three weeks and I'm trying to contact Mr. Gregorio Guinto.....

I would like to request from your association if its possible to display the PHUV in our school. Im hoping I can invite the bigwigs of Cavite---Gov. Maliksi, Senators Lacson and Revilla--to take a look at the PHUV and have it fabricated if possible in Cavite or entice these government officials to provide LGUs ( Baranggay patrol, police vehicles, offical vehicles, ambulances etc.)in our province PHUVs as multi purpose vehicles.

Our school is the most prestigious and the biggest in Cavite....kids of influencial politicians are enrolled there....in fact, in the past, Panfilo Lacson Jr.. was enrolled in our school.

PM me please, sirs from the MVPMAP.

[dprox]

IMHO, this whole MVPMAP PhUV episode is parallel to the following real-life 'parable':
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showp...&postcount=330
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...0710moto4.html
You establish the connections.

Breathe in the nice lessons (for everyone) :
#1) Good intentions might not be good enough.
#2) If you make a mistake, humbly admit it -- and correct it.
#3) It is alright to judge actions, but not intentions.
#4) If you are offended, you don't have to go ballistic. You might regret it later.

So, can we now move on to the next chapter with more sobriety?

And BTW,
#5) Tsikot PhUV is NOT THE SAME PROJECT as MVPMAP PhUV.
(This is for the newbies and people who forget easily).

[mazdamazda]

That is good news... hopefully they can improve upon the negative aspects of the first prototype as pointed out by some members here.

[aargh]

Good news indeed. Hopefully the next prototype will be much much better.

[rmb]

mvpmap is giving remedy to what have been pointed out as flaws.so we can expect now for a better phuv.you have my all out support mvpmap . go,go....

[jpdm]

Sir sana po you conduct a massive information campaign about the MVPMAP and the PHUV.

They are millions of vehicles in the Philippines and owners of these vehicles are your market. marami kasi sa kanila nagde-depende sa advice ng mga favorite at suki nilang mga mechanics, talyer boys---and these talyer boys and mechanics are not aware that the PHilippines to a certain extent is already a manufacturer--in fact---an exporter of automotive parts. I honestly believe that, indeed, MVPMAP produces autoparts that have world class quality.

madalas akong makapunta sa mga surplus shops dito sa Imus,Cavite, sa Pasay, Apalit at Banawe. mahal din presyo nila. minsan mahal pa sa replacement part na brand new. Ok fine, sabi nila orig. Kaya lang di ako kumakagat kasi laspag din. Takot pa po ako baka galing nakaw/ chop chop.Ayoko ko pong habulin ng Universal Karma.

Mga sirs ng MVPMAP, original or genuine spare parts from Japan/US/Korea are getting very,very prohibitive and costly. Pag replacement naman either Taiwan or Thailand. Ang nakakatakot ngayon po ay proliferation of fake parts of replacement parts from China.naloko na po ako. Kahit papaano, matibay pa gawa sa atin. For instance, yung radiator ng roberts yun ang pinampalit ko orig na radiator ng old corolla 96 ko po. Mas kaya init sa PInas kaysa orig at half the price pa. Matibay pa, kasi tanso yun roberts sir, yung sa orig plastic.

Anyway, we need to educate Pinoys about issues regarding our auto industry.

[OTEP]

Matibay pa, kasi tanso yun roberts sir, yung sa orig plastic.

Not to be OT but the original radiator is plastic for a reason. It's designed to be a weak spot in case the cooling system goes into high pressure. It's akin to a fuse in an electrical system.

I'd rather have a craked plastic radiator than a failed head gasket.

Back to regular programming.

[jpdm]

MVPMAP,

any updates on the prototype version 2? Is Francisco Motors Corp. joining?

[rmb]

MVPMAP,

any updates on the prototype version 2? Is Francisco Motors Corp. joining?

nadiscouraged siguro sa negative feedback sa phuv,i hope they will push thru with their plan and come up with the better phuv after all its a fully owned filipino company.