DLSU-D Symposium on Phil Utilty Vehicle(s)

[spectral]

--negative comments about the phuv: its ugly and people will not like it; bad interior; it will not even start.

--when we brought it in our place:
--beauty is relative. because It was reiterated in the forum and orientation that it is basically a utility vehicle, it was definitely accepted by the students, faculty and staff. In fact orders are coming....

--it has a nice interior for a utility vehicle. so it was widely accepted by the community. wala na rin yung kalawang na sinasabi ni HEIn nun.

--we test-driven it and definitely, good running condition sya..

jpdm,

You are saying that the Phuv is now acceptable? In the past theads, you said it was history and you are looking forward to the new and improved Phuv 2. Now you're pushing the first Phuv again.

[ehnriko]

Well napansin ko galing sa Pajero ang interior ni Chok and galing sa Isuzu yung engine.

In fairness... I have the impression you do have a trained eye for cars... I am really impressed with your attention to details. alam mo, if we can have people like you to be supporting this new Pinoy Vehicle movement... malayo mararating nito. why not join us?

[jpdm]

jpdm,You are saying that the Phuv is now acceptable? In the past theads, you said it was history and you are looking forward to the new and improved Phuv 2. Now you're pushing the first Phuv again.

--Yes. I thought so history na PHUV. But I did not lose hope. Ngayon I saw it in the flesh with my own eyes na alive and kicking ang PHUV and its a lot better looking than an average utility vehicle or jeepney here in our province kaya mabenta dito. Kaya nga di nahihiyang sumakay yung mga estudyante sa DLSU-D sa likod di ba? Tsaka di sila apektado sa usok.

--Patok ito rito.

--So I know supporter ka din ng PHUV kahit may hinala ako na nag-wo-work ka sa mga big boys.....

--So Goodbye jeepney (transform into), hello PHUV, FUV
--Goodbye, CAMPI at SUVic!

[jpdm]

--The forum and exhibit showed that we Pinoys can go beyond from being mere consumers of vehicles. In fact its shows that even with very limited or even non-existent government support, inadequate technology, limited funds plus the collusion of vested interests and their Pinoy minions in blocking any attempt to create a viable , truly local auto industry.....the symposium/exhibit SHOWS THAT WE CAN DO IT.

--Despite the brickbats thrown on the MVPMAP PHUV, Dprox Chokaran and the locally manufactured Imus humvee version...their exhibit and test drive presented a very concrete fact that PInoys can do it.

--What more if the government, the private sector and the Filipino public will help and patronize our locally produced vehicles, I believe we can truly come up with a vibrant genuine local auto industry...

--Go MVPMAP PhUV! Go Tsikot PHUV! Go DPROX Chok! Go OTJs! Go TRIMA!

[dprox]

Hi spectral. DPROX Choks are not meant to be your typical assembly-line vehicles. They are supposed to be custom-made according to owner's preferences and specs. Rolling chassis, power train, interiors and accessories are thus variable. So, don't generalize. Chok is not an "RTW". The only constant is the shell, its proportions and trademarks. And even that is scalable. Pagdating naman sa colors, sky's the limit. Ganun kasi ang Pinoy auto assembly tradition, di ba? Sure, there is still a lot of room for improvement, but I'm sure you'll agree that's where we should be heading.

Well napansin ko galing sa Pajero ang interior ni Chok ...

You jumped to the conclusion that the whole interior is "galing sa Pajero". FYI, the only pajeroesque parts of the my Chok's interiors are the IP and the driver's (shock absorbing) seat mount. Other Chok owners are free to design their interiors as they wish.

... and galing sa Isuzu yung engine.

You jumped to the conclusion that the whole engine is "galing sa Isuzu". FYI, the only thing isuzuesque here is the air cleaner. My Chok's engine is modified, and was put together based on my personal specs. Other owners are free to choose their engines and modify them at will.

I guess the lesson here is this: Never jump to conclusions based on pictures alone.

[dprox]

jpdm,
You are saying that the Phuv is now acceptable? In the past theads, you said it was history and you are looking forward to the new and improved Phuv 2. Now you're pushing the first Phuv again.

I guess the fate of MVPMAP's PhUV really depends on MVPMAP itself. Whatever we Tsikoteers might prefer, ang MVPMAP mismo ang bahala sa sarili nilang project.

Last August 17, three Tsikoteers :seehearspeak: from this forum submitted their recommendations for the restyling of the MVPMAP PhUV - based on our evaluation of the same. We don't know how seriously MVPMAP will take these into consideration.

We will be posting these three restyle versions soon. Abangan niyo na lang.

[scharnhorst]

Parang H3 inspired yung Chokaran FUV. For some reason, it seems like larger wheel wells and corresponding larger tires would be right at home with its body.

I can see from the pictures that the PhUV was filled to the brim with people. How well did it run when it was loaded, with its engine being somewhat smaller than AUVs and Jeepneys?

[spectral]

Dprox, medyo masama yung fit ng PAJERO dashboard sa CHOK, specially under the steering wheel area. Parang pinilit maipasok, crooked yung sa right plastic side.

Plus the dangling wires on the left underside, the workmanship needs improvement.

[dprox]

Parang H3 inspired yung Chokaran FUV. For some reason, it seems like larger wheel wells and corresponding larger tires would be right at home with its body. ...

Hi scharnhorst.

I designed Chok in mid-2003, as a deliberate style evolution of the PUJ and OTJ jeep types.
Those two Pinoy mainstays were my takeoff references. Chok rolled off the shop even before H3 concept drawings were released.

H3 was actually introduced only last year. That Chok reminds you of H3 is not surprising, since the US military's HMMWV was the successor of the Jeep series. In a sense, they all come from the same basic pedigree, with the Willys MB (with its twin bro, the Ford GPW) as the great granddaddy.

For the rationale and context of Chok's styling, CLICK HERE.

Your suggestion re the wheel well is well taken.
It will definitely better Chok's stance.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIlz7_lIzw"]YouTube - DPROX Chokaran[/ame]

[dprox]

Dprox, medyo masama yung fit ng PAJERO dashboard sa CHOK, specially under the steering wheel area. Parang pinilit maipasok, crooked yung sa right plastic side.

Plus the dangling wires on the left underside, the workmanship needs improvement.

Thanks for your observation. For a first-bat R&D unit that cost no more than 450K (2003-4 prices) - with accessories and the specs given - that is fine with me. Chok is not competing with luxury assembly-line vehicles, but it will last longer, since those vehicles have an engineered lifespan of 4-5 years. Compared to the standard XLTs and AUVs, I think Chok is basically on better footing.

I chose a Pajero IP for my Chok because of the possibilities it offers in terms of accessories. The ports you see at the right of the steering column are on standby, while I'm still saving up for future accessories. The wires are visible because I tried to install a 3-tone siren the day before, but junked the idea.

But post-R&D vehicles will be better, perhaps with simpler IPs, depending on the owner's choice of power train. Once the first challenges have been identified, workmanship issues can be solved by picking the right build team and QA personnel.

BTW, you remind me of an old poster named heinrich, even in your emphases. Uncanny similarity. He was a hard critic who never quite learned what "the best is the enemy of the good" means. Everything for him was either black or white. Mabuti na lang you said "medyo" this time.
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