The 2010 MVDP: Feat. the "Filipino Car" or Philippine Brand Vehicles

[OyiL]

“The [Land Transportation Office] has come up with new regulations on the inspection of motor vehicles, and we expect many public utility vehicles will not meet the requirements,” Suansing said.

“I would say almost 50 percent of the jeepney population will be affected.”
The LTO will require public utility vehicles—jeepneys in particular—to have speedometers, hand brakes, headlights and wipers, among other things, according to Joel Donato, head of the agency’s Motor Vehicle Inspection Service.

“We are implementing these requirements with the start of registration in January 2010,” he said.

the new regulations are deliberately set too strict for PUJs to meet

they know a large number of PUJs can't meet the new standards

they are expecting 50% of PUJs to fail

mahirap ba gawin yun? speedometers, hand brakes, headlights and wipers...ano pa ba? search ako..

[uls]

mahirap ba gawin yun? speedometers, hand brakes, headlights and wipers...ano pa ba? search ako..

mga PUJ wala working speedometer

meron sila gauge pero di gumagana

kasi wala nakakabit na speedometer cable

wala sila handbrake... wala handbrake handle, wala handbrake cable, as in wala

pag nakatigil, naka apak lang sa preno

pag naka park, naka kambyo

usually mga ilaw, wiper di gumagana

PUJ operators won't spend on things like that

they consider those things unneccessary

basta kaya tumatakbo at kaya tumitigil, ok na yan

anything else is unnecessary expense

pero gagastos sila sa sound system haha

madali lang naman magkabit ng mga yan

pero ang tanong -- willing ba sila gumastos?

eh yung mga gulong na kalbo ayaw palitan

yung smoke belching ayaw ayusin (mahal kasi magpa-calibrate ng injection pump)

kaya impossible yung sinasabi na papalitan ng bnew engines ang mga PUJ

sobra kuripot ang mga operator

speedometer and handbrake nga ayaw gastusan, bagong makina pa

PUJ operators/drivers hate change

they hate new regulations

siguro when faced with the threat of phase out, magpapakatino sila

mapipilitan sila sumunod sa new rules

pero sigurado mag po-protesta mga yan

sasabihin nila masyado mapang api ang gobyerno

kahit papano, may political clout mga yan (PISTON, FEJODAP)

leftist politicians will take their side

we'll see nalang next year

next year ang start ng enforcement ng LTO sa new regs

we'll see if the govt succeeds in eliminating 50% of PUJs from the streets

if it works, laking tuwa mga new-car-makers

ready for rollout na kasi mga mini buses nila

i'd like to see whose side Pres. Aquino will be on

[ocanursjr]

mga PUJ wala working speedometer

meron sila gauge pero di gumagana

kasi wala nakakabit na speedometer cable

wala sila handbrake... wala handbrake handle, wala handbrake cable, as in wala

pag nakatigil, naka apak lang sa preno

pag naka park, naka kambyo

usually mga ilaw, wiper di gumagana

PUJ operators won't spend on things like that

they consider those things unneccessary

basta kaya tumatakbo at kaya tumitigil, ok na yan

anything else is unnecessary expense

pero gagastos sila sa sound system haha

madali lang naman magkabit ng mga yan

pero ang tanong -- willing ba sila gumastos?

eh yung mga gulong na kalbo ayaw palitan

yung smoke belching ayaw ayusin (mahal kasi magpa-calibrate ng injection pump)

kaya impossible yung sinasabi na papalitan ng bnew engines ang mga PUJ

sobra kuripot ang mga operator

speedometer and handbrake nga ayaw gastusan, bagong makina pa

PUJ operators/drivers hate change

they hate new regulations

siguro when faced with the threat of phase out, magpapakatino sila

mapipilitan sila sumunod sa new rules

pero sigurado mag po-protesta mga yan

sasabihin nila masyado mapang api ang gobyerno

kahit papano, may political clout mga yan (PISTON, FEJODAP)

leftist politicians will take their side

we'll see nalang next year

next year ang start ng enforcement ng LTO sa new regs

we'll see if the govt succeeds in eliminating 50% of PUJs from the streets

if it works, laking tuwa mga new-car-makers

ready for rollout na kasi mga mini buses nila

i'd like to see whose side Pres. Aquino will be on

No offense * uls, naging Jeepney operator ka ba?

You can relay with them...

[uls]

di po ako naging jeepney operator

we used to sell Japan surplus engines that jeepney assemblers and operators use

Isuzu 4BA1, 4BC2, 4BE1, Fuso 4D30, 31, 32...

parts too

real world experience lang po

i know how cost conscious PUJ operators are

there's no way a PUJ operator will spend hundreds of thousands of pesos on a brand new engine

Theory lang yan ng mga academic and govt planners

you can threaten them with phase out kung ayaw nila sumunod sa gusto ng gobyerno

pero lalaban mga yan

kabuhayan nila yan eh (operators and drivers)

pipilitin mo sila gumastos ng malaki para gawing "modern" ang PUJ?

they will see it as oppression

it won't be long before they figure out who the beneficiaries are

kung new engines, sa casa sila bibili ng new engines

kung phase out, sa casa manggagaling ang mga sasakyan na papalit sa PUJ

this will become a rich vs. poor drama

kaya meron dyan natawag na anti-poor

pero hindi niya nagets baket siya natawag na anti-poor

[renzo_d10]

True to uls' post.

If you are a jeepney operator, you wouldn't want to be spending too much on a vehicle that you wouldn't use or won't add to your daily income.

It's simply a waste of money for them. If the operators are to be " asked " if they could modernize their jeepneys by changing their engines then they would simply say " no " or just wouldn't care.

Now, if they would be obliged in getting one ( a new engine ) then they would protest just like how they would if their wants cannot be given to them when they ask for a price hike.

Simple as that. It cannot be done, it will never be.

[OyiL]

di po ako naging jeepney operator

we used to sell Japan surplus engines that jeepney assemblers and operators use

Isuzu 4BA1, 4BC2, 4BE1, Fuso 4D30, 31, 32...

parts too

real world experience lang po

i know how cost conscious PUJ operators are

there's no way a PUJ operator will spend hundreds of thousands of pesos on a brand new engine

Theory lang yan ng mga academic and govt planners

you can threaten them with phase out kung ayaw nila sumunod sa gusto ng gobyerno

pero lalaban mga yan

kabuhayan nila yan eh (operators and drivers)

pipilitin mo sila gumastos ng malaki para gawing "modern" ang PUJ?

they will see it as oppression

it won't be long before they figure out who the beneficiaries are

kung new engines, sa casa sila bibili ng new engines

kung phase out, sa casa manggagaling ang mga sasakyan na papalit sa PUJ

this will become a rich vs. poor drama

kaya meron dyan natawag na anti-poor

pero hindi niya nagets baket siya natawag na anti-poor

sabi ni niky, hindi daw malinaw na kasali yung brand new engine sa listahan para "i-mordenize". yung mga speedo, hand-brake, wiper, lights, etc. lang ang nakasulat. pwede gumamit ng second-hand na mga ito. necessary yung mga requirements na yun kaya hindi yun anti-poor kundi pro-safety. mga poor din naman ang pasahero ng mga dyip kaya pro-poor din yun. hehe.

[uls]

the government's goal is to "modernize" PUJs

PUJs will have to install "safety" features like handbrakes, wipers, working lights (which are actually standard equipment on other vehicles)

and meet emissions standards

sabihin natin hindi sila pipilitin ng govt magpalit ng makina

they can use their old engines as long as they meet emissions standards

(question: tataasan ba ng gobyerno ang emissions standards? or maintain current standards? di ko alam eh)

let's say tinaasan ng gobyerno ang emissions standards

sigurado many PUJs will fail (current standards palang dami na bagsak)

so mapipilitan sila gumastos (inj. pump calibration, palit injector nozzle tips)

ang dating nyan sa PUJ operators ay pinahihirapan sila ng gobyerno

itutuloy ko po later, kain lang ako

[uls]

continuation:

alam ko naman po na ang mga "safety" requirements ay para sa mga pasahero

but PUJs have been performing their work without those things for decades

in my opinion, there's more to this than just "modernizing" PUJs

there's a plan to phase out PUJs

the govt can't phase them out all of a sudden, all at once

gulo yan

they'll have to do it gradually

so the PUJ people won't know what hit them

the govt starts by imposing stricter regulations and higher standards

regulations so strict and standards so high that PUJs will find hard to meet (govt estimate around 50% will fail)

so the govt will have valid reasons for not renewing their registrations

slowly drive PUJs out of business

(the govt will spin this as protecting the public's safety, so public opinion will be on the government's side)

call me biased, but i think the new-car-makers are behind this move

the new-car-makers see a potentially huge market in the public transport sector

if PUJs are phased out, a huge vacuum will be created

the new-car-makers have products that can fill that vacuum

the LTFRB has already endorsed the Beep as replacement for PUJs

we'll see if this happens in 2011

[OyiL]

mga PUJ wala working speedometer

meron sila gauge pero di gumagana

kasi wala nakakabit na speedometer cable

wala sila handbrake... wala handbrake handle, wala handbrake cable, as in wala

pag nakatigil, naka apak lang sa preno

pag naka park, naka kambyo

usually mga ilaw, wiper di gumagana

PUJ operators won't spend on things like that

they consider those things unneccessary

basta kaya tumatakbo at kaya tumitigil, ok na yan

anything else is unnecessary expense

pero gagastos sila sa sound system haha

madali lang naman magkabit ng mga yan

pero ang tanong -- willing ba sila gumastos?

eh yung mga gulong na kalbo ayaw palitan

yung smoke belching ayaw ayusin (mahal kasi magpa-calibrate ng injection pump)

kaya impossible yung sinasabi na papalitan ng bnew engines ang mga PUJ

sobra kuripot ang mga operator

speedometer and handbrake nga ayaw gastusan, bagong makina pa

PUJ operators/drivers hate change

they hate new regulations

siguro when faced with the threat of phase out, magpapakatino sila

mapipilitan sila sumunod sa new rules

pero sigurado mag po-protesta mga yan

sasabihin nila masyado mapang api ang gobyerno

kahit papano, may political clout mga yan (PISTON, FEJODAP)

leftist politicians will take their side

we'll see nalang next year

next year ang start ng enforcement ng LTO sa new regs

we'll see if the govt succeeds in eliminating 50% of PUJs from the streets

if it works, laking tuwa mga new-car-makers

ready for rollout na kasi mga mini buses nila

i'd like to see whose side Pres. Aquino will be on

its time for operators to realize that those required features are more necessary than the stickers, antennas, fog lights, hood ornaments, stereo system. if they dont put these unnecessary ornamental parts on, they would then have enough money to pay for the required parts. somebody has to teach them what is right. may isang taon pa sila para magtabi ng pera para maikabit yung mga kailangan ikabit.

yung pagpalit ng engines, may govt help diba?

kailangan ma-educate yung mga operators na yan.

beep and minibus vs jeepney: to jeepney assemblers ang pinagkaiba lang niyan e yung body. kung mauso nga yan e di mag-asemble na lang yung mga jeep builders ng jeepney-based, backyard-assembled beep killer. kaya naman nila.